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		<title>By: early pregnancy symptoms</title>
		<link>http://blog.grokmedia.com/2008/10/25/the-art-of-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator>early pregnancy symptoms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish to wish all pregnant women of good mood, easy pregnancy and natural sorts! &lt;br&gt;Good luck also are happy! Give birth easily and independently! Let not doctors give birth for you, and you! Also adjust itself on chest feeding of the kid! Read the necessary information! Be, lovely pregnant mums and expecting posterities of the daddy, are healthy and wise!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish to wish all pregnant women of good mood, easy pregnancy and natural sorts! <br />Good luck also are happy! Give birth easily and independently! Let not doctors give birth for you, and you! Also adjust itself on chest feeding of the kid! Read the necessary information! Be, lovely pregnant mums and expecting posterities of the daddy, are healthy and wise!</p>
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		<title>By: the dow chemical company &#124; Bookmarks URL</title>
		<link>http://blog.grokmedia.com/2008/10/25/the-art-of-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>the dow chemical company &#124; Bookmarks URL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I was quite excited when I read the presentation &#8221; Global Process Safety Metrics - Driving Consistency and Improvement&#8221; by Tim Overton, who is chief safety engineer at The Dow Chemical Company. This result of the CCPS Metrics Project was presented at this years AIChE Spring Meeting and CCPS &#8230;  The Art of Reason. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I was quite excited when I read the presentation &#8221; Global Process Safety Metrics &#8211; Driving Consistency and Improvement&#8221; by Tim Overton, who is chief safety engineer at The Dow Chemical Company. This result of the CCPS Metrics Project was presented at this years AIChE Spring Meeting and CCPS &#8230;  The Art of Reason. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: captaindigital</title>
		<link>http://blog.grokmedia.com/2008/10/25/the-art-of-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-56</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 05:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you re-read my post carefully, you&#039;d notice that at no point do I ever&lt;br&gt;give Dow Chemical a pass for anything else they&#039;ve done. I was speaking&lt;br&gt;specifically about Agent Orange. I think one of the fundamental problems is&lt;br&gt;that our society has blurred the lines between tragedy and responsibility.&lt;br&gt;If someone buys a ladder and falls off with a result of serious injury or&lt;br&gt;death, that&#039;s a tragedy. If the ladder was the cause, that&#039;s a shame. But&lt;br&gt;only if the ladder was defective is it actionable. And only if the&lt;br&gt;manufacturer KNEW IN ADVANCE that they ladder was unsafe should they be held&lt;br&gt;responsible for  criminal acts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are many products (thalidomide, oddly enough is one of them) that if&lt;br&gt;used in specific, carefully monitored ways can be both safe and therapeutic.&lt;br&gt;Does that absolve the manufacturer from ill effects if the product is used&lt;br&gt;off-label or contrary to their recommendations? It does in my book. Look, is&lt;br&gt;it logical to blame Stanley Toolworks if some idiot buys a hammer and uses&lt;br&gt;it to murder their family?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are certainly companies out there (Union Carbide springs to mind) that&lt;br&gt;have cut corners in foreign countries with disastrous results. The Bhopal&lt;br&gt;disaster was criminal. The people responsible belong in jail. None of that&lt;br&gt;has anything to do with my point that a vast majority of companies behave&lt;br&gt;responsibly, and don&#039;t risk harming the public in order to make an extra&lt;br&gt;buck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you re-read my post carefully, you&#39;d notice that at no point do I ever<br />give Dow Chemical a pass for anything else they&#39;ve done. I was speaking<br />specifically about Agent Orange. I think one of the fundamental problems is<br />that our society has blurred the lines between tragedy and responsibility.<br />If someone buys a ladder and falls off with a result of serious injury or<br />death, that&#39;s a tragedy. If the ladder was the cause, that&#39;s a shame. But<br />only if the ladder was defective is it actionable. And only if the<br />manufacturer KNEW IN ADVANCE that they ladder was unsafe should they be held<br />responsible for  criminal acts.</p>
<p>There are many products (thalidomide, oddly enough is one of them) that if<br />used in specific, carefully monitored ways can be both safe and therapeutic.<br />Does that absolve the manufacturer from ill effects if the product is used<br />off-label or contrary to their recommendations? It does in my book. Look, is<br />it logical to blame Stanley Toolworks if some idiot buys a hammer and uses<br />it to murder their family?</p>
<p>There are certainly companies out there (Union Carbide springs to mind) that<br />have cut corners in foreign countries with disastrous results. The Bhopal<br />disaster was criminal. The people responsible belong in jail. None of that<br />has anything to do with my point that a vast majority of companies behave<br />responsibly, and don&#39;t risk harming the public in order to make an extra<br />buck.</p>
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		<title>By: TruthAboutDow</title>
		<link>http://blog.grokmedia.com/2008/10/25/the-art-of-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>TruthAboutDow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Dow Chemical really never meant to hurt anyone, why have they still not cleaned up their toxic messes in Vietnam and Bhopal? Why do they still manufacture chemicals that have scientifically been proven to cause birth defects such as Bisphenol A? Producing a chemical of that scale obviously would have consequences. Many of these corporations know of the lethality used in their chemicals, yet still produce and sell them, thinking nothing will come of it. You should read up on your history.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thetruthaboutdow.org&quot;&gt;www.thetruthaboutdow.org&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Dow Chemical really never meant to hurt anyone, why have they still not cleaned up their toxic messes in Vietnam and Bhopal? Why do they still manufacture chemicals that have scientifically been proven to cause birth defects such as Bisphenol A? Producing a chemical of that scale obviously would have consequences. Many of these corporations know of the lethality used in their chemicals, yet still produce and sell them, thinking nothing will come of it. You should read up on your history.<br /><a href="http://www.thetruthaboutdow.org">http://www.thetruthaboutdow.org</a></p>
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